Darian Durant

Bohabeerafemalebeer · 07-05-2008, 12:55 AM

Well, I've made +'ve statements about this guy before (last season), and I think he is the No.2 now for sure. I like what one of us said in another thread, he ""managed"" the game. He looked pretty poised, he was there with KJ and Marcus last season under Kent's guidance. He knows the offence and the guys running the routes.

I'm not saying he's bona fida, but all around, he looked better than Jyles. Of course, the mood was different for the offence in the 1st when they saw Flick go down. So that, and some halftime adjustments, may have made Jyles look worse than he is.

Should be an interesting topic this week.

lerriuqs · 07-05-2008, 12:58 AM

Durant would have done even better if the offensive line had held up better - the pressure was very hard on him and Jyles. Durant showed he can make good decisions when he has a little bit of time. The O-line needs to be better.

XmanRiderFan · 07-05-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Durant would have done even better if the offensive line had held up better - the pressure was very hard on him and Jyles. Durant showed he can make good decisions when he has a little bit of time. The O-line needs to be better.

Yes, our o-line was very week in the second half. DD was poised for an inexperienced QB, the dump pass to Cates on the blitz was a very smart descision. I liked what I saw from him. I still don't know why Jyles was #2 in the first place.

crystalsignal · 07-05-2008, 01:07 AM

Durant looked pretty darn good out there. He didn't get rattled, was loose and having fun. I wouldn't mind giving him the next couple starts.

Bleeding Green · 07-05-2008, 01:09 AM

To me, he looked very nervous to start with, then settled in as the game progressed. He also avoided the mistakes that Jyles made, forcing the ball down field.

Bohabeerafemalebeer · 07-05-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Green

To me, he looked very nervous to start with, then settled in as the game progressed. He also avoided the mistakes that Jyles made, forcing the ball down field.

Exactly.

Bigsexydawg · 07-05-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleeding Green

To me, he looked very nervous to start with, then settled in as the game progressed. He also avoided the mistakes that Jyles made, forcing the ball down field.

I saw Jyles with the "Deer in the Head-Lights Look" and then I saw a Young gun looking confident.

When is the last time we won a big game with a young gun? 1987 against Hamilton with a rookie Austin, that's it.

Durant is a natural, enjoy the next 2 or 3 weeks.

bryksa · 07-05-2008, 01:02 AM

he had some zip on his passes too. I bet he can air it out.

Bohabeerafemalebeer · 07-05-2008, 01:08 AM

The O-line did look flat, especially in the first half. But they were probably a little worn out from the Bc pressure and the pocket-protection, being that we were pass happy there for a while. That TSN Forde guy had it right at haltime, ya gotta use the running game/Cates. As we saw, a balanced attack wins ballgames (well that, and a stellar defence!). And a great lesson in perseverence too. Sometimes you gotta play ugly games just to see what you're made of.

07-05-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bohabeerafemalebeer

Well, I've made +'ve statements about this guy before (last season), and I think he is the No.2 now for sure. I like what one of us said in another thread, he ""managed"" the game. He looked pretty poised, he was there with KJ and Marcus last season under Kent's guidance. He knows the offence and the guys running the routes.

I'm not saying he's bona fida, but all around, he looked better than Jyles. Of course, the mood was different for the offence in the 1st when they saw Flick go down. So that, and some halftime adjustments, may have made Jyles look worse than he is.

Should be an interesting topic this week.

Jyles looked awful and forced those throws downfield, but it seemed that at the point in the game at which he was thrown in there, the plan on offense was to stretch the field. By the time Durant entered the fray, the coaches had made the adjustments to deal with the intense pass rush BC was getting. The screens and draws reallyhelped Durant - and much to his credit he executed them well.

Giventofly · 07-05-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Piffles

Jyles looked awful and forced those throws downfield, but it seemed that at the point in the game at which he was thrown in there, the plan on offense was to stretch the field. By the time Durant entered the fray, the coaches had made the adjustments to deal with the intense pass rush BC was getting. The screens and draws reallyhelped Durant - and much to his credit he executed them well.

This is the biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd half. Good work by Lapo.

In Darian I trust!!!

Fullhouse · 07-05-2008, 10:00 AM

In a lot of ways we are in a good position with QB's. Were 2 - 0 at the start of the season. Marcus injury shouldn't be that bad. Durant will get much needed playing time.

Even if Jyles turns out to be a complete dud we still have Tate that has been in the system for a year.

The only way were going to develop a new starter after Marcus is to get him some playing time.

Rider_Stronson · 07-05-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fullhouse

Even if Jyles turns out to be a complete dud we still have Tate that has been in the system for a year.

The only way were going to develop a new starter after Marcus is to get him some playing time.

However, is Tate even the long-term answer at QB, Fullhouse? Have you seen his arm? Its nothing to write home to mom about.

Crandell's brittleness has reared its ugly head yet again and we're about to find out what our backups are made of.

Fullhouse · 07-05-2008, 10:22 AM

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However, is Tate even the long-term answer at QB, Fullhouse? Have you seen his arm? Its nothing to write home to mom about.

Crandell's brittleness has reared its ugly head yet again and we're about to find out what our backups are made of.

It takes more than merely athletic ability to be a successfull QB. I'm not saying Tate might be the answer, but I get tired of QB's being rated mostly on their athletic ability rather than their technical skills.

bzborow1 · 07-05-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bohabeerafemalebeer

Well, I've made +'ve statements about this guy before (last season), and I think he is the No.2 now for sure. I like what one of us said in another thread, he ""managed"" the game. He looked pretty poised, he was there with KJ and Marcus last season under Kent's guidance. He knows the offence and the guys running the routes.

I'm not saying he's bona fida, but all around, he looked better than Jyles. Of course, the mood was different for the offence in the 1st when they saw Flick go down. So that, and some halftime adjustments, may have made Jyles look worse than he is.

Should be an interesting topic this week.

Durant certainly looked a little better, but the co-ordinator also changed the style of play-calling in the 2nd half to emphasize Cates more. Also I think Jyles might be better if he gets reps with the 1st team offense all week. Who knows...but Jyles certainly looks like he has talent not unlike Jarius Jackson.........hopefully he has a brain, though.

longman77 · 07-06-2008, 12:46 PM

How can people say Durant looked poised out there.... He had happy feet and was nervous for most of the third quarter. He looked lossed out there, not seeing wide open receivers, not being able to move the ball. It was the same thing in the preseason game in edmonton. Thats why Jyles was number 2. Jyles makes things happen, and Durant doesn't. The only time the Riders moved the ball was when they started using Cates more effectively which they didn't do with Jyles. As for Jyles first interception he was throwing the ball to fantuz, and fantuz gave up on the play and quit running. If you can't have confidence in your receivers, especially one of Fantuz's quality, then you shouldn't be in the league anyway. Do you think Dickenson wouldn't of thrown to Clermont or Simon if they were covered when he was in BC????
The biggest reason this team as a whole didn't look great against BC was they looked like they didn't show up to play. There wasn't alot of energy out there. You can tell when this team is playing hard, when they are bouncing around, running harder then the other team, and that wasn't there.
It is becoming obvious that we need another DE.... using a linebacker isn't working. Chick is getting doubled up because Jones is too small out there. He looked like a midget next to Brent Johnson.

Bigsexydawg · 07-06-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by longman77

How can people say Durant looked poised out there.... He had happy feet and was nervous for most of the third quarter. He looked lossed out there, not seeing wide open receivers, not being able to move the ball. It was the same thing in the preseason game in edmonton. Thats why Jyles was number 2. Jyles makes things happen, and Durant doesn't. The only time the Riders moved the ball was when they started using Cates more effectively which they didn't do with Jyles. As for Jyles first interception he was throwing the ball to fantuz, and fantuz gave up on the play and quit running. If you can't have confidence in your receivers, especially one of Fantuz's quality, then you shouldn't be in the league anyway. Do you think Dickenson wouldn't of thrown to Clermont or Simon if they were covered when he was in BC????
The biggest reason this team as a whole didn't look great against BC was they looked like they didn't show up to play. There wasn't alot of energy out there. You can tell when this team is playing hard, when they are bouncing around, running harder then the other team, and that wasn't there.
It is becoming obvious that we need another DE.... using a linebacker isn't working. Chick is getting doubled up because Jones is too small out there. He looked like a midget next to Brent Johnson.

Thank you a laundry list of excuses and BS.

saks39 · 07-06-2008, 01:09 PM

no kidding...so were you at the edmonton game as well as the BC game in person? Because on TV guys look open alot more than in person. I cant believe the arguement here is "do you think dickenson didnt throw to covered recievers in BC" If they are blanketed, then no, you dont throw the ball there lol. Energy and showing up to play wasnt an issue. IMO it sounds like this guy may be jyes himself lol

squish · 07-06-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by longman77

How can people say Durant looked poised out there.... He had happy feet and was nervous for most of the third quarter. He looked lossed out there, not seeing wide open receivers, not being able to move the ball. It was the same thing in the preseason game in edmonton. Thats why Jyles was number 2. Jyles makes things happen, and Durant doesn't. The only time the Riders moved the ball was when they started using Cates more effectively which they didn't do with Jyles. As for Jyles first interception he was throwing the ball to fantuz, and fantuz gave up on the play and quit running. If you can't have confidence in your receivers, especially one of Fantuz's quality, then you shouldn't be in the league anyway. Do you think Dickenson wouldn't of thrown to Clermont or Simon if they were covered when he was in BC????
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I agree on your points on Durant, but he did seem to settle in on into the 4th. A full week of 1st team reps should help with the indecisiveness and the happy feet.

MattD · 07-06-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by longman77

It is becoming obvious that we need another DE.... using a linebacker isn't working. Chick is getting doubled up because Jones is too small out there. He looked like a midget next to Brent Johnson.

You criticize Kitwana Jones? They allow 16 points on the road despite multiple turnovers, and you want a new defensive end?

We've allowed one TD in two games. What more do you want?