Darian Durant - Page 3

iversondan · 07-05-2008, 09:16 AM

You could be right Mad Hatter, Jyles may have not been listening to the coaches.
Has there been a post game interview with Ken Miller?

07-05-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bohabeerafemalebeer

Well, I've made +'ve statements about this guy before (last season), and I think he is the No.2 now for sure. I like what one of us said in another thread, he ""managed"" the game. He looked pretty poised, he was there with KJ and Marcus last season under Kent's guidance. He knows the offence and the guys running the routes.

I'm not saying he's bona fida, but all around, he looked better than Jyles. Of course, the mood was different for the offence in the 1st when they saw Flick go down. So that, and some halftime adjustments, may have made Jyles look worse than he is.

Should be an interesting topic this week.

Jyles looked awful and forced those throws downfield, but it seemed that at the point in the game at which he was thrown in there, the plan on offense was to stretch the field. By the time Durant entered the fray, the coaches had made the adjustments to deal with the intense pass rush BC was getting. The screens and draws reallyhelped Durant - and much to his credit he executed them well.

Giventofly · 07-05-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Piffles

Jyles looked awful and forced those throws downfield, but it seemed that at the point in the game at which he was thrown in there, the plan on offense was to stretch the field. By the time Durant entered the fray, the coaches had made the adjustments to deal with the intense pass rush BC was getting. The screens and draws reallyhelped Durant - and much to his credit he executed them well.

This is the biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd half. Good work by Lapo.

In Darian I trust!!!

Fullhouse · 07-05-2008, 10:00 AM

In a lot of ways we are in a good position with QB's. Were 2 - 0 at the start of the season. Marcus injury shouldn't be that bad. Durant will get much needed playing time.

Even if Jyles turns out to be a complete dud we still have Tate that has been in the system for a year.

The only way were going to develop a new starter after Marcus is to get him some playing time.

Rider_Stronson · 07-05-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fullhouse

Even if Jyles turns out to be a complete dud we still have Tate that has been in the system for a year.

The only way were going to develop a new starter after Marcus is to get him some playing time.

However, is Tate even the long-term answer at QB, Fullhouse? Have you seen his arm? Its nothing to write home to mom about.

Crandell's brittleness has reared its ugly head yet again and we're about to find out what our backups are made of.

Chaps · 07-05-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by XmanRiderFan

The bomb to Fantuz was a very bad decision, Fantuz was covered 100% he was in front of the defender...if he wanted to hit Andy, he could have thrown in short and made him come back to the ball. He should not have tried that pass, not very smart.

True...BUT...on the replay...Andy stops running his route as if he thought the play was going to end...then when Jyles threw it, Andy started running again and couldn't catch up.

So bad throw...and bad decision by Fantuz to stop running his route.

Chaps · 07-05-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XmanRiderFan

Fantuz never broke off his route, the defender just never let him get behind him, at no point was he open deep, Jyles just shouldn't have thrown that ball to him.

Fantuz DID stop running the route...and started again when Jyles through it.

Fullhouse · 07-05-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider_Stronson

However, is Tate even the long-term answer at QB, Fullhouse? Have you seen his arm? Its nothing to write home to mom about.

Crandell's brittleness has reared its ugly head yet again and we're about to find out what our backups are made of.

It takes more than merely athletic ability to be a successfull QB. I'm not saying Tate might be the answer, but I get tired of QB's being rated mostly on their athletic ability rather than their technical skills.

Chaps · 07-05-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by iversondan

Come on guys, give Jyles a little bit of a break. He came into the game and was instantly pressured. With the O-line falling apart he didn't have much time to make a decision, even if he could have seen through the rush of Lions coming at him. He made some smart plays, ie, TD to Fantuz, screen pass to Cates. He didn't have the luxury that DD had getting to start after teh half, after some pre-snap coaching.
I agree that DD is the better QB but Jyles isn't as bad as Nealon, as early suggested. Even with his interceptions, Jyles played better than Jarious Crapson.[/QUOTE]

or as Rod Black called him Jarious Juracson.

Haha yeah that was funny.

I think he had "Darian Durant" in his head instead of "Jarius Jackson"...so it came out Durackson.

Rider_Stronson · 07-05-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fullhouse

It takes more than merely athletic ability to be a successfull QB. I'm not saying Tate might be the answer, but I get tired of QB's being rated mostly on their athletic ability rather than their technical skills.

I agree to a point, FH, but in the end, this is the CFL with the big field. The QB has to have at least adequate arm strength to make the defence respect the bulk of the field and I don't see it with Tate.

iversondan · 07-05-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by saskatoonriderfan

Haha yeah that was funny.

I think he had "Darian Durant" in his head instead of "Jarius Jackson"...so it came out Durackson.

Think again.
It was a play on words, meaning I think Jarious is Crappy.
Hence Crapson instead of Jackson.

lerriuqs · 07-05-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XmanRiderFan

Fantuz never broke off his route, the defender just never let him get behind him, at no point was he open deep, Jyles just shouldn't have thrown that ball to him.

Watch the play again - Fantuz is running hard then slows down - it's pretty clear that Jyles expected him to continue running hard and threw it where he thought he'd be.

AckAttack · 07-05-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iversondan

Come on guys, give Jyles a little bit of a break. He came into the game and was instantly pressured. With the O-line falling apart he didn't have much time to make a decision, even if he could have seen through the rush of Lions coming at him. He made some smart plays, ie, TD to Fantuz, screen pass to Cates. He didn't have the luxury that DD had getting to start after teh half, after some pre-snap coaching.
I agree that DD is the better QB but Jyles isn't as bad as Nealon, as early suggested. Even with his interceptions, Jyles played better than Jarious Crapson.

He's worse, at least Nealon wouldn't turn over the ball in every quarter he played.

saskatoonriderfan · 07-05-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaps

Think again.
It was a play on words, meaning I think Jarious is Crappy.
Hence Crapson instead of Jackson.

I am pretty sure Chaps got it. He was laughing at Rod Blacks comment that I brought up though and not your play on words.

saks39 · 07-05-2008, 07:04 PM

IMO i always thought jyles got the #2 job because of politics more than anything else. But i always thought that durant would take over if jyles ever played simply becasue you cant turn the ball over like that and make poor decisions like he did.

DallasF · 07-05-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saks39

IMO i always thought jyles got the #2 job because of politics more than anything else. But i always thought that durant would take over if jyles ever played simply becasue you cant turn the ball over like that and make poor decisions like he did.

The last thing anyone on the riders coaching staff or in management cares about is "politics". If they did, Ron Flemons would be on the DLine.

Grayson Tiger · 07-05-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaps

Fantuz DID stop running the route...and started again when Jyles through it.

That was actually a perfect result at the time. Pinned BC at the two which was better than a punt would have been and led to JJ's fumble which led to Fantuz's touchdown.

So in a really weird way, that play worked out pretty good for us.

CalgaryRiderFan · 07-05-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DallasF

The last thing anyone on the riders coaching staff or in management cares about is "politics". If they did, Ron Flemons would be on the DLine.

Noone brings up Flemons not playing because it blows up the politics accusation.
The coaches and GM will make evaluation mistakes and questioning that is fine. But I hate the insinuation that they will play their guys at the detriment of the team.

CalgaryRiderFan · 07-05-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekDD

or that tillman got rid of someone because he was a shivers guy. i dont know when that mantra is going to end.

Sad to say it won't. Time for a controversial comment....some people are still not 100% happy with last year's cup because we didn't win it under the right guy.

Rider_Stronson · 07-05-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryRiderFan

Sad to say it won't. Time for a controversial comment....some people are still not 100% happy with last year's cup because we didn't win it under the right guy.

I'll always say those aren't real Rider fans then. Thank god I think they are the few and far between, the jaded, and the bitter.