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  • Sunday Night, Green Bay @ New England

    The best QB in football vs some guy named Brady.... who ya got??

  • #2
    Originally posted by nernzi19 View Post
    The best QB in football vs some guy named Brady.... who ya got??
    8 super bowl games with 5 Super Bowl rings versus a QB who has won one Super Bowl. It's a game featuring the game's greatest all-time QB against a very talented QB by the name of Rogers. When the game is on the line with less then 2 minutes to go no one has a record close to Tom Brady. I believe he has something like 59 such games. Rodgers is a very gifted QB but he has a long ways to go to meet the Brady standard. Brady is also playing the game for a much smaller salary then Rodgers $33 million per year. Brady understands the salary cap and the importance of fielding a team. Rodgers has a better arm and is much more mobile. But being a successful, great QB involves many other aspects. Montana didn't have a great arm. Peyton Manning didn't have real strong arm and wasn't very mobile. Brady is like a great coach. He is a perfectionists when it comes to preparation and execution . He is the ultimate student of the game.Anyone that has played with him will attest to the demanding standards of Brady. Regardless of the this game's outcome Brady's record over his career stands alone as the standard for great QBs.
    Last edited by brady; 11-03-2018, 06:11 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nernzi19 View Post
      The best QB in football vs some guy named Brady.... who ya got??
      Packers!

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      • #4
        New England because they are at home.

        Brady's intangibles separate him from every other QB, with the possible exception of Montana.

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        • #5
          The best qb matchup in football. Iíll take the pats.

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          • #6
            Pats to win, Packrs to cover the 6

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            • #7
              Brady wasn't great but he was still good enough to win. The TD pass to Gordon just revealed the intangibles that are hard to measure.

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              • #8
                G.O.A.T.

                that is all.

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                • #9
                  Packers have one ( 1 ) more win than the 9ers

                  That makes me smile

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                  • #10
                    we are/were in an era of fantastic QBs so great discussion..current (last active 2010) QBs in top 100 in passing with at least one SB

                    Brees 1
                    P Manning 2
                    Favre 1
                    Brady 5
                    E Manning 2
                    Roth 2
                    Rodgers 1
                    Flacco 1
                    Wilson 1

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brady View Post
                      Brady wasn't great but he was still good enough to win. The TD pass to Gordon just revealed the intangibles that are hard to measure.
                      Pretty good game plan by Mike Pettine to keep Brady in check for 3 quarters. After the Edelman pass play, the Packers D was just guessing. The Jones fumble was a big momentum swing. Great game by both sides until that point. Packers have done a good job of shooting themselves in the foot this year

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                      • #12
                        That Aaron Jones fumble really changed the game. Had they scored at that point, going up 7 and forcing New England to score twice, it is a very different game. Beyond the debate about the QBs though, that was a really strong picture of how both teams function. New England makes timely plays, and forces teams to pay for their costly mistakes, whereas Green Bay puts the game on Rodgers' shoulders and hopes no one else messes up too bad.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by steve04 View Post
                          That Aaron Jones fumble really changed the game. Had they scored at that point, going up 7 and forcing New England to score twice, it is a very different game. Beyond the debate about the QBs though, that was a really strong picture of how both teams function. New England makes timely plays, and forces teams to pay for their costly mistakes, whereas Green Bay puts the game on Rodgers' shoulders and hopes no one else messes up too bad.
                          This has always been my response to the Rodgers/Brady debate. Brady is a great QB on a great team. Rodgers is a great QB on an average team. You put Rodgers on those Patriot championship teams and it's Rodgers with 5 rings.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nernzi19 View Post

                            This has always been my response to the Rodgers/Brady debate. Brady is a great QB on a great team. Rodgers is a great QB on an average team. You put Rodgers on those Patriot championship teams and it's Rodgers with 5 rings.
                            Rodgers had some great teams. 4 or 5 years back they had 4 or 5 high quality receivers[Jennings, Nelson, Driver,Jones, Finley] and a very solid running back. Not sure the talent difference is much different. One year the Pats had a tight end by the name of Bennett who had a all-pro type season ,The next year he signs as a FA with the Packers and does zip . He is released half way through the season. Brady just brings out a lot more out of his players. Its one of those intangibles. I think people are seeing that emerge with Gordon. Brady has proven he can fight through adversity. Some of those Patriot teams won despite having key players out like Gronk, Edelman out for the season. Not sure that Rodgers has that type of leadership talent.
                            Last edited by brady; 11-05-2018, 03:48 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by brady View Post

                              Rodgers had some great teams. 4 or 5 years back they had 4 or 5 high quality receivers[Jennings, Nelson, Driver,Jones, Finley] and a very solid running back. Not sure the talent difference is much different. One year the Pats had a tight end by the name of Bennett who had a all-pro type season ,The next year he signs as a FA with the Packers and does zip . He is released half way through the season. Brady just brings out a lot more out of his players. Its one of those intangibles. I think people are seeing that emerge with Gordon. Brady has proven he can fight through adversity. Some of those Patriot teams won despite having key players out like Gronk, Edelman out for the season. Not sure that Rodgers has that type of leadership talent.
                              The Patriots' last two SB wins speak volumes about Brady's leadership and will to win. Coming back from 10 down in the 4th quarter to beat an all-time great defense against Seattle (Peyton Manning folded his tent in the second quarter the prior year) and, of course, the incredible comeback against the Falcons. There is no quit in him and consequently no quit in his team.

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