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  • Joe Mixon AND Rodney Anderson! Sheesh

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    • With the draft over, here is a page with a list of UDFAs and where they are signing...

      http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...2019-nfl-draft

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      • A few years back when the Seahawks and Patriots were in the Super Bowl I thought it was interesting that there wasn't that many starters who had been first round picks. Clearly both teams do an outstanding job of finding good players in the later rounds and through free agency. I noticed this year that both teams had pile of picks between the second and fifth rounds. Schneider and Bellichick are great at finding bargains.

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        • Originally posted by brady View Post
          A few years back when the Seahawks and Patriots were in the Super Bowl I thought it was interesting that there wasn't that many starters who had been first round picks. Clearly both teams do an outstanding job of finding good players in the later rounds and through free agency. I noticed this year that both teams had pile of picks between the second and fifth rounds. Schneider and Bellichick are great at finding bargains.
          You need real production from guys not making 10Mill per year in a capped league.

          Where I see these franchises differ is a willingness to give a job on a win now team to a rookie/unproven player. NE as done that over and over again, and its the biggest key to their success not named Brady. Seattle was not willing to do it or failed when they did, and it lead to this changeover on the roster. From 2013-2016 they got very little in the draft (Lockett and Clarke are about it) They tried to roll over their O Line but it was a disaster.

          New England is unique (maybe the Steelers are close) in letting good players go, and replacing them with younger cheaper ones, and spreading money around the roster. Its a long term winning formula, but for most teams its impossible to pull off because coaches and get fired faster when they cut a quality player than if they starve a few positions.

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          • Originally posted by voice of reason View Post

            You need real production from guys not making 10Mill per year in a capped league.

            Where I see these franchises differ is a willingness to give a job on a win now team to a rookie/unproven player. NE as done that over and over again, and its the biggest key to their success not named Brady. Seattle was not willing to do it or failed when they did, and it lead to this changeover on the roster. From 2013-2016 they got very little in the draft (Lockett and Clarke are about it) They tried to roll over their O Line but it was a disaster.

            New England is unique (maybe the Steelers are close) in letting good players go, and replacing them with younger cheaper ones, and spreading money around the roster. Its a long term winning formula, but for most teams its impossible to pull off because coaches and get fired faster when they cut a quality player than if they starve a few positions.
            Agree with the Patriot churn. They will let good players go rather than committing large amounts of money on big contracts. They know from experience that difference between number 1 draft choices and 2 through 5 drat choices is marginal. You only have to look at their own roster . Brady was a number 6 and Edelman was a number 7 . Gronk I believe was a number 2. Hightower was a number 32 in round 1. They are also very skilled at finding versatile players. They work vey well in the Bellichick program. The Seahawks had a lot of great players on their defence who seemed to be around the same age and all looking a big contracts. They eventually moved them out but after their best years were behind them. Most of the good players that the Pats don't resign don't pan out for the teams that sign them. Collins, Solder, Amendola are some recent examples. Bellichick seems to have success with other teams vets . I guess it boils down to solid homework and great judgement.

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            • Jaguars LB Telvin Smith unexpectedly announced today that he will be sitting out the 2019 season to “get his world in order”. Great young talent, hope he is able to get his head straight and resume his career at some point.

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              • Former CFLer Dontrelle Inman signing with the Pats.

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                • What odd timing for the Jets to fire their GM. After the draft and free agency

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                  • Originally posted by CalgaryRiderFan View Post
                    What odd timing for the Jets to fire their GM. After the draft and free agency
                    Jets doing Jet things

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                    • Originally posted by CalgaryRiderFan View Post
                      What odd timing for the Jets to fire their GM. After the draft and free agency
                      The new Browns

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                      • Zeke had a run in with security at EDC in Vegas last night. Got into the face of the guy and gave him a little chest bump, and the guy flopped like they were playing soccer. Apparently it was following an interaction with where Zeke was being aggressive (but not physical) with his girlfriend. He was cuffed but not charged.

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                        • Reuben Foster - torn ACL - likely out for the year

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                          • Bart Starr passed away last night

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                            • Originally posted by steve04 View Post
                              Bart Starr passed away last night
                              Just read about this now. RIP

                              https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...B8pmeRtAs9qL-g

                              Packers legend Bart Starr dies at 85

                              Bart Starr, the MVP of the first two Super Bowls and a cornerstone of the Packers’ dynasty of the 1960s, has died. He was 85.

                              The Packers announced the death of the legendary quarterback on Sunday morning.

                              “We are saddened to note the passing of our husband, father, grandfather, and friend, Bart Starr,” Starr’s family said in a statement released by the Packers. “He battled with courage and determination to transcend the serious stroke he suffered in September 2014, but his most recent illness was too much to overcome.

                              “While he may always be best known for his success as the Packers quarterback for 16 years, his true legacy will always be the respectful manner in which he treated every person he met, his humble demeanor, and his generous spirit.

                              “Our family wishes to thank the thousands of friends and fans who have enriched his life — and therefore our lives — for so many decades and especially during the past five years. Each letter, text, phone call, and personal visit inspired him and filled him with joy.

                              “His love for all of humanity is well known, and his affection toward the residents of Alabama and of Wisconsin filled him with gratitude. He had hoped to make one last trip to Green Bay to watch the Packers this fall, but he shall forever be there in spirit.”

                              A 17th-round pick of the Packers in the 1956 NFL draft, Starr remained with the team through 1971 as a player. He served as quarterbacks coach in 1972, and he then became the team’s head coach from 1975 through 1983.

                              Despite the Super Bowl wins and the league titles prior to the creation of the NFL-AFL championship game, Starr’s iconic moment came as he plunged into the end zone to score the decisive touchdown in the Ice Bowl, the NFL championship game against the Cowboys preceding Super Bowl II.

                              Starr suggested the quarterback sneak to coach Vince Lombardi, who said in response, “Well then run it, and let’s get the hell out of here.”




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                              • Originally posted by Lotus View Post

                                Just read about this now. RIP

                                https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...B8pmeRtAs9qL-g

                                Packers legend Bart Starr dies at 85




                                Bart was before my time, but as a huge Packer fan I know how important he was to the franchise and the NFL. Sad day, RIP.

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