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  • Originally posted by Cflgridiron View Post

    No but it makes far more sense to have a carbon tax in Ontario BC and Quebec with their high population density and the economics of doing mass transit. That argument is not there to the same extent in SK AB and MB and PEI.

    The pure amount of crap regarding the damage of a carbon tax is laughable.
    When you are in business it's not a laughing matter. If you think the extra cost is funny good for you.

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    • Originally posted by Sofaking View Post

      Wyoming 580,000 residents

      California 39,000,000 residents

      Both states have 2 elected senators. The US has a goofy electoral system that most people don't understand fully including me. I don't hear anyone from California complaining about the distribution of senators.
      All about being equal where in Canada the party in control can put in like minded people.

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      • Originally posted by Cflgridiron View Post

        I am referring to the PBO carbon tax review report.
        Can you point me to where it says what you're claiming?
        Is it May yet?

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        • Originally posted by Magnum View Post

          All about being equal where in Canada the party in control can put in like minded people.
          They're not equal though. Clearly some people's votes are worth more than others when 600,000 people have the same power as 39,000,000.

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          • Originally posted by green_machine_#1 View Post

            They're not equal though. Clearly some people's votes are worth more than others when 600,000 people have the same power as 39,000,000.
            California has 54 electoral votes,..Wyoming has 3. So i'd say California has a lot more influence when it comes time to elect a President
            The idea that each state has 2 senators regardless of size was to keep the smaller states like Wyoming and Rhode Island from being completely dominated by larger ones like California and New York. It's a good system, it allows for representation by population via the House of Representatives, however they are held in check by the senate which gives every state an equal voice

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            • Originally posted by green_machine_#1 View Post

              They're not equal though. Clearly some people's votes are worth more than others when 600,000 people have the same power as 39,000,000.
              Dont confuse the Senate with Congress. No one state has the ability to impose the will on another without a majority vote in Senate.

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              • Originally posted by Green in Queen City View Post

                California has 54 electoral votes,..Wyoming has 3. So i'd say California has a lot more influence when it comes time to elect a President
                The idea that each state has 2 senators regardless of size was to keep the smaller states like Wyoming and Rhode Island from being completely dominated by larger ones like California and New York. It's a good system, it allows for representation by population via the House of Representatives, however they are held in check by the senate which gives every state an equal voice
                Said it better than I did.

                The reasons of an equal and elected senate is what the liberals have opposed forever which would keep our government in check. No way does SNC get swept under the rug in the US like it did here.

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                • Originally posted by Cflgridiron View Post

                  The biggest issue with the current carbon tax is 91% is paid by the consumer not the companies. So there is very little incentive to change. Then you have the government handing out millions to giant companies like loblaws to buy fridges VS only having that money for smaller companies that will truly need the help.
                  Not really. In it's current form, always of course subject to change, individuals are getting the majority rebated to them while companies for the most part do not. This of course applies only to the federal version. Provinces who have their own tax decide where the money goes.

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                  • Originally posted by Green in Queen City View Post

                    California has 54 electoral votes,..Wyoming has 3. So i'd say California has a lot more influence when it comes time to elect a President
                    The idea that each state has 2 senators regardless of size was to keep the smaller states like Wyoming and Rhode Island from being completely dominated by larger ones like California and New York. It's a good system, it allows for representation by population via the House of Representatives, however they are held in check by the senate which gives every state an equal voice
                    California has 65 times more people than Wyoming but only 18 times more collegiate votes. It is a system that is no longer relevant. There is no reason that states with low populations should be over represented.

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                    • Originally posted by Magnum View Post

                      Said it better than I did.

                      The reasons of an equal and elected senate is what the liberals have opposed forever which would keep our government in check. No way does SNC get swept under the rug in the US like it did here.
                      Instead you have a system where the president had 3 million fewer votes than the other candidate.

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                      • Originally posted by footballisgood View Post

                        California has 65 times more people than Wyoming but only 18 times more collegiate votes. It is a system that is no longer relevant. There is no reason that states with low populations should be over represented.
                        Quebec is less than double the population of Alberta but with more than double the seats in the HOC.

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                        • Originally posted by footballisgood View Post

                          Instead you have a system where the president had 3 million fewer votes than the other candidate.
                          We also have a system where the governing party does not have a majority of the vote either.

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                          • Originally posted by Magnum View Post

                            Quebec is less than double the population of Alberta but with more than double the seats in the HOC.
                            And that needs to be changed too. There will always be a bit of a catch up when provinces like AB andBC grow faster but each riding should be roughly the same population.

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                            • Originally posted by Magnum View Post

                              We also have a system where the governing party does not have a majority of the vote either.
                              But did the liberals have millions of fewer votes than the conservatives last election?

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                              • Originally posted by footballisgood View Post

                                And that needs to be changed too. There will always be a bit of a catch up when provinces like AB andBC grow faster but each riding should be roughly the same population.
                                Quebec is guaranteed a certain number of seats, it will never be equal.

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