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  • #16
    Originally posted by squish View Post

    You could, it would just have to be even colder, like -10. Ultimately though, because of this, its probably an engineering impossibility. So yeah, couldn't be done.
    I think I read you'd have to get it to -21 depending on how salty the water is. Would that be possible with a large scale ground freezing plant?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The_G View Post

      I think I read you'd have to get it to -21 depending on how salty the water is. Would that be possible with a large scale ground freezing plant?
      Yes - absolutely possible

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DownTownBrown View Post

        Yes - absolutely possible
        Like others have said then, would you invest millions of dollars on ground freezing plant to dig a couple holes then never use it again.

        Link to someone who is ground freezing saltwater?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The_G View Post

          Like others have said then, would you invest millions of dollars on ground freezing plant to dig a couple holes then never use it again.

          Link to someone who is ground freezing saltwater?
          I agree it wouldn't be cheap, but probably wouldn't be too far beyond what they've invested on 100+ seismic holes and a giant sheetpile coffer damn. We aren't talking about a huge plant required, only freezing a small amount. Many of the projects that utilize this technology, freeze aquifers that are hundreds of meters thick. A couple of local SK examples would be K3 (Mosaic) Jansen Lake (BHP). Some freeze plants can run upto -40C, but typically don't require this. Even at -5C it would easily freeze ocean water which appears to freeze around -2C.

          They could likely help subsidize the cost by arranging a partnership with specialists in this professional area (similar to what they did for the coffer dam it seems) and by purchasing used equipment (similar to the screener). The depth they require here is just such a small distance relative to some of the other holes that have been made in more challenging geological structures. Hell, the plains hotel hole in Regina has got to be close to 40 ft deep lol

          Many examples/links could be found, Google K3 project, Jansen Lake Project. Both of these SK projects froze through the Blairmore aquifer (salt water aquifer), which is quite an engineering challenge and would dwarf anything they would need to do at Oak Island using smaller scale similar tech.

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          • #20
            But why would anyone want to go to this trouble? I certainly would not.

            If they find some treasure, yippee. If not,meh.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sprout View Post
              But why would anyone want to go to this trouble? I certainly would not.

              If they find some treasure, yippee. If not,meh.
              Plus it would likely put an end to the cash-cow that is "The Curse of Oak Island". Its a lose-lose.

              If you want to get away from expensive freezing tech, maybe they could even excavate until water flow hit and drive some sheet piles from there? If I'm not mistaken the dig is pretty dry up until near the target depth. I would postulate there may be engineering solutions that exclude building an expensive freeze plant.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DownTownBrown View Post

                Plus it would likely put an end to the cash-cow that is "The Curse of Oak Island". Its a lose-lose.

                If you want to get away from expensive freezing tech, maybe they could even excavate until water flow hit and drive some sheet piles from there? If I'm not mistaken the dig is pretty dry up until near the target depth. I would postulate there may be engineering solutions that exclude building an expensive freeze plant.
                They could install and cement in metal rings, like the "Blairmore Rings" used in the potash mines. Hella expensive, but come on Laginas, you want to find some more brass buttons off a Templar tunic right?

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                • #23
                  I quit watching but am a little confused on their latest commercial. Some guy says this gem isn't old it's ancient. Aren't all gems ancient?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The_G View Post

                    I think I read you'd have to get it to -21 depending on how salty the water is. Would that be possible with a large scale ground freezing plant?
                    Saltwater freezes at -2. Not sure where you got this -21 number from.

                    Doesn't anyone search things on the internet?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pappcam View Post

                      Saltwater freezes at -2. Not sure where you got this -21 number from.

                      Doesn't anyone search things on the internet?
                      I googled salt water, it said -21C. I guess that's for completely saturated salt water solution. Not sea water.

                      Great job trying to be completely condescending about it though.
                      Last edited by The_G; 01-14-2019, 05:20 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The_G View Post

                        I googled salt water, it said -21
                        Saturated salt water I think is what that is referencing. Seawater is only at 35000ppm (3.5%) salt or thereabouts.

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                        • #27
                          I watch every episode, but this season has me really doubting any significant find. I was always skeptical but slightly optimistic. But based on everything they've done and still haven't found anything really special, I doubt there's anything to find. The things they have found are mainly surface finds that were probably lost by some other searchers.

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                          • #28
                            I first learned of Oak Island when I was a kid watching re-runs of "In Search Of". Original episode aired in 79. If they haven't solved it yet it's because there's probably nothing to solve.

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                            • #29
                              I suspect that with the wash plant they just purchased that they will be off to the Yukon to start gold mining to take the place of the Hoffmans.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Magnum View Post
                                I suspect that with the wash plant they just purchased that they will be off to the Yukon to start gold mining to take the place of the Hoffmans.
                                Speaking of which, the GOld Rush show is less fun to watch without the gong show of the Hoffmans. The remaining miners all pretty much know what they are doing. I miss poor dumb Todd and and his dumb Dad with the "There's frickin gold here, I frickin know it" *clunk helmets*.

                                Made the show more entertaining as you were watching these idiots spend millions on nothing. Kinda like the Lagina's I guess.

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