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  • Giventofly
    started a topic Disturbing situation in Arizona

    Disturbing situation in Arizona



    Phoenix police have served a search warrant to get DNA from all male employees at a long-term care facility where a patient who was in a vegetative state for years gave birth, triggering reviews by state agencies and putting a spotlight on safety concerns for severely disabled or incapacitated patients.

    Hacienda HealthCare, the company that owns the facility, said Tuesday that it welcomed the DNA testing of employees.

    "We will continue to co-operate with Phoenix police and all other investigative agencies to uncover the facts in this deeply disturbing, but unprecedented situation," the company said in a statement.

    Local news website Azfamily.com first reported the woman, who had been in a vegetative state for more than 10 years after a near-drowning, delivered a baby on Dec. 29.

    Officials with the San Carlos Apache tribe said the the 29-year-old woman is an enrolled member of the tribe, whose reservation is in southeastern Arizona about 215 kilometres east of Phoenix.

    The woman was still in a vegetative state when she gave birth, the tribe said in a statement that redacted her name. It's unclear if staff members at the facility were aware of her pregnancy until the birth.

    "On behalf of the tribe, I am deeply shocked and horrified at the treatment of one of our members," tribal chairman Terry Rambler said. "When you have a loved one committed to palliative care, when they are most vulnerable and dependent upon others, you trust their caretakers. Sadly, one of her caretakers was not to be trusted and took advantage of her. It is my hope that justice will be served."

    A lawyer for the woman's family said in a statement that her family was outraged at the "neglect of their daughter" and asked for privacy.

    "The family would like me to convey that the baby boy has been born into a loving family and will be well cared for," Phoenix attorney John Micheaels said in a statement. 'Horrifying situation'

    San Carlos Apache Police Chief Alejandro Benally said Phoenix police "will do all they can to find the perpetrator."

    A spokesperson for Hacienda HealthCare said investigators served a search warrant Tuesday to obtain DNA samples from all male staff.

    In a statement, board member Gary Orman said the facility "will accept nothing less than a full accounting of this absolutely horrifying situation."

    "We will do everything in our power to ensure the safety of every single one of our patients and our employees," Orman said.

    Hacienda CEO Bill Timmons stepped down Monday, spokesperson David Leibowitz said. The decision was unanimously accepted by the provider's board of directors.

    Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey's office has called the situation "deeply troubling."

    Phoenix police so far have declined to comment. Previous complaint

    The Hacienda facility serves infants, children and young adults who are "medically fragile" or have developmental disabilities, according to its website. In the wake of the reports, the Arizona Department of Health Services said new safety measures have been implemented. They include increased staff presence during any patient interaction, more monitoring of patient care areas and additional security measures involving visitors.

    The state's online complaint database for care facilities shows multiple complaints about Hacienda de Los Angeles going back to 2013. Most of them involve fire drill and evacuation preparation or Medicaid eligibility.

    But one complaint from December 2013 outlines an allegation that a staff member made inappropriate sexual comments about four patients two months earlier. Nobody relayed the incidents to an administrator. That employee was later fired.

    Advocates for the disabled say Arizona needs to find a way to monitor allegations of sexual abuse and sexual violence in group settings. Doing background checks isn't enough, said Erica McFadden, executive director of the Arizona Developmental Disabilities Planning Council.

    Jon Meyers, executive director of The Arc of Arizona, an advocacy group for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, called the allegations "disturbing, to put it mildly."

    "I wasn't there. I clearly don't have firsthand knowledge of what happened," Meyers said. "But I can't believe someone receiving that level of constant care wasn't recognized as being pregnant prior to the time she delivered."


  • carmen16
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    Closing it down before they can get sued into oblivion.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/phoeni...ape-1.5010770?

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  • Bates
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    Originally posted by Sofaking View Post

    Possibly, but I would hope for humanities sake the % of people that sick is pretty low.
    I don't like your chances of being correct. Think of the number of date rape drug incidents where the guy basically has sex with an unconscious girl, the distance to coma isn't that far from there unfortunately.

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  • Sofaking
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    Originally posted by green_machine_#1 View Post

    I wonder if he didn't run after giving the DNA sample because he wasn't the only possible father...
    Possibly, but I would hope for humanities sake the % of people that sick is pretty low.

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  • green_machine_#1
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    Originally posted by Bigsexydawg View Post
    You gotta know that it never crossed his mind once that she would/could get pregnant and I bet it will come out that this was not an isolated incident.
    I wonder if he didn't run after giving the DNA sample because he wasn't the only possible father...

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  • Bigsexydawg
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    You gotta know that it never crossed his mind once that she would/could get pregnant and I bet it will come out that this was not an isolated incident.

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  • drysaddle
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    Dude was a Christian rapper

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.8a81d4beadab

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  • green_machine_#1
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    I have no doubt that's just a bad picture of a guy who probably got roughed up a bit or something right before. I've seen a few pics online that I can't 100% confirm are him, but he looks pretty "normal". The reason I mention this is that if you assume you can spot predators based on their looks, you can leave yourself and your family vulnerable. Kevin Spacey doesn't exactly look like a guy who would (allegedly) sexually assault young men, yet there he is in court.

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  • squish
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    Originally posted by Bates View Post

    Squish didn't offer any judgement on this guy's looks???
    I share PTBG's assesment.

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  • Bates
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    Originally posted by Proudtobegreen View Post
    I know you shouldn't judge a person by their looks, but sometimes.............
    Squish didn't offer any judgement on this guy's looks???

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  • RiderHard
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    Originally posted by Proudtobegreen View Post
    I know you shouldn't judge a person by their looks, but sometimes.............
    Right? I mean, obviously the CEO looked like a perv, but had we had all of their photos, I think most people would have chosen this guy.
    The CEO was probably shooting blanks.

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  • Proudtobegreen
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    I know you shouldn't judge a person by their looks, but sometimes.............

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  • R.J
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    There's some sick people in this world.

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  • drysaddle
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    Originally posted by Giventofly View Post
    Jeebus, canít even think of words to describe how messed up that is.

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  • Giventofly
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    Last edited by Giventofly; 01-23-2019, 10:50 AM.

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